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		<title>By: dunno no ting</title>
		<link>http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/the-ice-cream-cone-continuum/comment-page-1/#comment-4300</link>
		<dc:creator>dunno no ting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...I do agree  that K-punk&#039;s article was pretty bad, yet somehow still more imaginative than a lot of the other writing I&#039;ve read on the subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;I do agree  that K-punk&#8217;s article was pretty bad, yet somehow still more imaginative than a lot of the other writing I&#8217;ve read on the subject.</p>
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		<title>By: dunno no ting</title>
		<link>http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/the-ice-cream-cone-continuum/comment-page-1/#comment-4299</link>
		<dc:creator>dunno no ting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D &amp; B was seen as &quot;the future of music&quot; by critics back in the day, and now it (more or less) makes me wanna sleep, or vomit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D &amp; B was seen as &#8220;the future of music&#8221; by critics back in the day, and now it (more or less) makes me wanna sleep, or vomit.</p>
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		<title>By: jace</title>
		<link>http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/the-ice-cream-cone-continuum/comment-page-1/#comment-4262</link>
		<dc:creator>jace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i mean &#039;alarmist&#039;. that style of assuming drugs&#039; importance in first assumes that large numbers of key figures are taking drugs &amp; being influenced by them artistically in similar ways, so i consider it &#039;alarmist&#039;, as it fantasizes a &#039;youth subculture gone wild&#039; thing where entire scenes flock from one drug to the next and all their music decisions are heavily determined by X Y &amp; Z effects of those drugzzzzz.  

Can you imagine critics trying to attribute stylistic shifts in music to alcohol consumption? booze are so common, there is no alarm raised

even something like the purple syrup of DJ Screw in Houston, while tons of rappers and producers talk about that culture, the sound is *also* influenced by the hot humid heavy climate (the same climate of Kingston dub) and the urban sprawl freeway systems that puts folks in their cars, slow, driving slow or stuck in traffic, plus a ton of other stuff --- so while focusing on drugs in that case is valid, even then they need to be considered alongside all sorts of other valid non-narcotic influences.  so when folks just focus on the drugs, i call those folks &#039;alarmist&#039; 

strangely enough, i wouldnt mind seeing the drug-centric criticism mode spread to government:: cocaine &amp; booze the drugs of Capitol Hill (U.S.)!!, so obviously reflected in their violent, destructive, empty unsustainable confidence, etc etc.

 :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i mean &#8216;alarmist&#8217;. that style of assuming drugs&#8217; importance in first assumes that large numbers of key figures are taking drugs &amp; being influenced by them artistically in similar ways, so i consider it &#8216;alarmist&#8217;, as it fantasizes a &#8216;youth subculture gone wild&#8217; thing where entire scenes flock from one drug to the next and all their music decisions are heavily determined by X Y &amp; Z effects of those drugzzzzz.  </p>
<p>Can you imagine critics trying to attribute stylistic shifts in music to alcohol consumption? booze are so common, there is no alarm raised</p>
<p>even something like the purple syrup of DJ Screw in Houston, while tons of rappers and producers talk about that culture, the sound is *also* influenced by the hot humid heavy climate (the same climate of Kingston dub) and the urban sprawl freeway systems that puts folks in their cars, slow, driving slow or stuck in traffic, plus a ton of other stuff &#8212; so while focusing on drugs in that case is valid, even then they need to be considered alongside all sorts of other valid non-narcotic influences.  so when folks just focus on the drugs, i call those folks &#8216;alarmist&#8217; </p>
<p>strangely enough, i wouldnt mind seeing the drug-centric criticism mode spread to government:: cocaine &amp; booze the drugs of Capitol Hill (U.S.)!!, so obviously reflected in their violent, destructive, empty unsustainable confidence, etc etc.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.negrophonic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: zhao</title>
		<link>http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/the-ice-cream-cone-continuum/comment-page-1/#comment-4261</link>
		<dc:creator>zhao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>an (alarmist) overvaluing of drugs’ role in musical subcultures

do you mean &quot;alarming&quot; jace?</description>
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<p>do you mean &#8220;alarming&#8221; jace?</p>
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		<title>By: jace</title>
		<link>http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/the-ice-cream-cone-continuum/comment-page-1/#comment-4253</link>
		<dc:creator>jace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anonymous dunno (welcome bak) - historicism is rigid when continuum enthusiasts use it shoehorn musical cultural polyphony into a narrow template of this-begat-that. The most immediate example of &quot;rigid historicism&quot; is K-Punk stuffing grime and dubstep together into a &#039;yang&#039; in the intro paragraph of his Fact piece. (his ignoring of grime &amp; dubstep&#039;s many substantive differences, i suppose you could call this &quot;hipster cultural amnesia&quot; if you wanted, although i wouldnt phrase it like that.)

and yes, you agree with a lot of people who are quick to subsume bassline into garage, deriding any claims to its newness. the fact that it has a new genre name around which debates about its newness or innovative aspects exists is proof of said existence -- in the process of arguing *against* &#039;bassline&#039; as something new, you allocate it discursive space and help usher it further into existence as just that. 

plus, just check the london shops... the bassline  section which wasn&#039;t there in years past is steadily growing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anonymous dunno (welcome bak) &#8211; historicism is rigid when continuum enthusiasts use it shoehorn musical cultural polyphony into a narrow template of this-begat-that. The most immediate example of &#8220;rigid historicism&#8221; is K-Punk stuffing grime and dubstep together into a &#8216;yang&#8217; in the intro paragraph of his Fact piece. (his ignoring of grime &#038; dubstep&#8217;s many substantive differences, i suppose you could call this &#8220;hipster cultural amnesia&#8221; if you wanted, although i wouldnt phrase it like that.)</p>
<p>and yes, you agree with a lot of people who are quick to subsume bassline into garage, deriding any claims to its newness. the fact that it has a new genre name around which debates about its newness or innovative aspects exists is proof of said existence &#8212; in the process of arguing *against* &#8216;bassline&#8217; as something new, you allocate it discursive space and help usher it further into existence as just that. </p>
<p>plus, just check the london shops&#8230; the bassline  section which wasn&#8217;t there in years past is steadily growing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dunno no ting</title>
		<link>http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/the-ice-cream-cone-continuum/comment-page-1/#comment-4251</link>
		<dc:creator>dunno no ting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since when is historicism &quot;rigid&quot;?  Claims like this make little sense coming from someone like Rupture.  The basslines in &quot;Bassline&quot; were so played out by Garage in years past, that I find them anything but &quot;innovative&quot;.  

I guess cultural amnesia is ever the hipster thing these days.

&quot;For critcs to secure their formerly relevent area of specialization&quot; is a wasteman thing to say.  Scholarship this blog is decidedly not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when is historicism &#8220;rigid&#8221;?  Claims like this make little sense coming from someone like Rupture.  The basslines in &#8220;Bassline&#8221; were so played out by Garage in years past, that I find them anything but &#8220;innovative&#8221;.  </p>
<p>I guess cultural amnesia is ever the hipster thing these days.</p>
<p>&#8220;For critcs to secure their formerly relevent area of specialization&#8221; is a wasteman thing to say.  Scholarship this blog is decidedly not.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 06:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FLYING WATERMELONS LOL</description>
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		<title>By: sizz the boss</title>
		<link>http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/the-ice-cream-cone-continuum/comment-page-1/#comment-4232</link>
		<dc:creator>sizz the boss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skewer them dj rupture!

I think the funniest part of K-Punks article is that he thinks that there is any significant number of people suffering from &#039;serotonin depletion&#039; due to taking too much ecstacy in the current generation of his precious continuum.

Sorry dude, you&#039;re old.  No one I know takes ecstacy any more besides southern rappers and hyphy kids in the bay.  The idea that grime is some response to MDMA induced serotonin lack is ridiculous.  If we are making drug based analsyses I&#039;d say you must have been smoking crack when you wrote your article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skewer them dj rupture!</p>
<p>I think the funniest part of K-Punks article is that he thinks that there is any significant number of people suffering from &#8217;serotonin depletion&#8217; due to taking too much ecstacy in the current generation of his precious continuum.</p>
<p>Sorry dude, you&#8217;re old.  No one I know takes ecstacy any more besides southern rappers and hyphy kids in the bay.  The idea that grime is some response to MDMA induced serotonin lack is ridiculous.  If we are making drug based analsyses I&#8217;d say you must have been smoking crack when you wrote your article.</p>
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		<title>By: homoludo &#187; He never lost his hardcore!He never lost his thar barr!</title>
		<link>http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/the-ice-cream-cone-continuum/comment-page-1/#comment-4227</link>
		<dc:creator>homoludo &#187; He never lost his hardcore!He never lost his thar barr!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it get funny and intersting is that Word the Cat, Dj Rupture and others(dead on) have gotten sick of the slightly smug way it is being used to lend authority [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it get funny and intersting is that Word the Cat, Dj Rupture and others(dead on) have gotten sick of the slightly smug way it is being used to lend authority [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rodrigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>rodrigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like your blog,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like your blog,</p>
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