Comments on: PLATA PASTA Y BACHATA http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/plata-pasta-y-bachata/ dirt, sound, lit Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:29:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Sydney http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/plata-pasta-y-bachata/#comment-4455 Sydney Sun, 10 Feb 2008 09:11:45 +0000 http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/plata-pasta-y-bachata/#comment-4455 thanks to Caro for pointing out the contribution of female merengue tipico artists. I recently co-produced and wrote the liner notes for the La India Canela CD dacks mentions. There are actually many women playing tipico and more coming out all the time, something I'm writing about in my dissertation. Tipico is a bit more hospitable to female artists than bachata partly because bachata lyrics are often so misogynistic, while tipico can be more humorous or ironic. Hope you enjoy the Folkways CD, too, although there's no guitar in it... thanks to Caro for pointing out the contribution of female merengue tipico artists. I recently co-produced and wrote the liner notes for the La India Canela CD dacks mentions. There are actually many women playing tipico and more coming out all the time, something I’m writing about in my dissertation. Tipico is a bit more hospitable to female artists than bachata partly because bachata lyrics are often so misogynistic, while tipico can be more humorous or ironic. Hope you enjoy the Folkways CD, too, although there’s no guitar in it…

]]> By: dacks http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/plata-pasta-y-bachata/#comment-4438 dacks Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:41:39 +0000 http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/plata-pasta-y-bachata/#comment-4438 Just got La India Canela's new disc on Smithsonian. Hotttt. You should check it out. Just got La India Canela’s new disc on Smithsonian. Hotttt. You should check it out.

]]> By: jace http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/plata-pasta-y-bachata/#comment-4349 jace Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:29:16 +0000 http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/plata-pasta-y-bachata/#comment-4349 thanks for this background info w&w and caro. ..men 2 men unrequited lovesongs. yes that comp is indeed sweet -- sweetness mixed with a faint lockerroom odor? thanks for this background info w&w and caro. ..men 2 men unrequited lovesongs.

yes that comp is indeed sweet — sweetness mixed with a faint lockerroom odor?

]]> By: Caro http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/plata-pasta-y-bachata/#comment-4331 Caro Mon, 28 Jan 2008 23:00:45 +0000 http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/plata-pasta-y-bachata/#comment-4331 Jayce, backing up w&w 100%. Bachata, in old form and new, has never had much feminine perspective. For that, you have to look for the few and far between women in merengue tipico -- most notably, proto-reggaetonera Fefita la Grande (who Ivy Queen should rip off if she hasn't already), but also La India Canela and a couple of others that escape me at the moment. I too am loving Bachata Roja and was surprised at how such sweet stuff coulda been considered so disreputable, musica de guardia & de cabaret. Jayce, backing up w&w 100%. Bachata, in old form and new, has never had much feminine perspective. For that, you have to look for the few and far between women in merengue tipico — most notably, proto-reggaetonera Fefita la Grande (who Ivy Queen should rip off if she hasn’t already), but also La India Canela and a couple of others that escape me at the moment.

I too am loving Bachata Roja and was surprised at how such sweet stuff coulda been considered so disreputable, musica de guardia & de cabaret.

]]> By: w&w http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/plata-pasta-y-bachata/#comment-4329 w&w Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:18:00 +0000 http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/plata-pasta-y-bachata/#comment-4329 picked this up a few weeks ago, & been enjoying it. nice to hear bachata before that same (if awesome) trebly, swirly guitar timbre assumed orthodoxy. and nice liner notes from my dear colleague (& co-editor) debbie pacini hernandez). as she explains in her book, _bachata_, the music really has its roots in men singing about unrequited love to other men (sometimes so that women will dance with them, and maybe do some requiting). so little surprise that female perspectives in bachata remain so rare. as the genre has become mainstream, tho (and not just in DR, but in PR and NY), we're sure to see/hear a wider range. even still, tho, mostly men. (but i love when ivy queen gets all sentimental on some bachaton.) picked this up a few weeks ago, & been enjoying it. nice to hear bachata before that same (if awesome) trebly, swirly guitar timbre assumed orthodoxy. and nice liner notes from my dear colleague (& co-editor) debbie pacini hernandez). as she explains in her book, _bachata_, the music really has its roots in men singing about unrequited love to other men (sometimes so that women will dance with them, and maybe do some requiting). so little surprise that female perspectives in bachata remain so rare.

as the genre has become mainstream, tho (and not just in DR, but in PR and NY), we’re sure to see/hear a wider range. even still, tho, mostly men. (but i love when ivy queen gets all sentimental on some bachaton.)

]]> By: Dub1 http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/plata-pasta-y-bachata/#comment-4327 Dub1 Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:49:38 +0000 http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/plata-pasta-y-bachata/#comment-4327 /rupture. Eliades Ochoa..really nice guitarist and singer from Cuba. I'm pretty sure you already know but thought it was relevant. paz /rupture.
Eliades Ochoa..really nice guitarist and singer from Cuba.
I’m pretty sure you already know but thought it was
relevant.
paz

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