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	<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 09:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: seen. presents: Tim Turbo Thursday #01 - the podcast series kicks off /// seen.´s non-hippie reggae and dancehall blog</title>
		<link>http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/oily-black/#comment-7470</link>
		<dc:creator>seen. presents: Tim Turbo Thursday #01 - the podcast series kicks off /// seen.´s non-hippie reggae and dancehall blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Busta Rhymes feat. Ron Brownz - Arab&#160;Money Mudd up! Discovered this hell of a Busta tune and added two more Arab-styles.&#160;International.  And check [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Busta Rhymes feat. Ron Brownz - Arab&nbsp;Money Mudd up! Discovered this hell of a Busta tune and added two more Arab-styles.&nbsp;International.  And check [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tally</title>
		<link>http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/oily-black/#comment-6352</link>
		<dc:creator>tally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its strange imagining the process in the studio of coming up with a "fake" arabic chorus..... like an engineer saying "Thats not feeling arabic enough- make more emphasis on the "neuah" sound" or somesuch- even given how much we talk/read/think about the middle east. I rarely hear arabic speakers except in that turned down background way where they let you hear the original orator behind the translator on the radio/news/youtube.

I guess its not that much different that suburban Connecticut youth self policing and correcting each others affected southern (perceived) ghetto parlance- like "no man, "shaw-day""

authenticity a few times removed starts to get awfully abstract and democratic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its strange imagining the process in the studio of coming up with a &#8220;fake&#8221; arabic chorus&#8230;.. like an engineer saying &#8220;Thats not feeling arabic enough- make more emphasis on the &#8220;neuah&#8221; sound&#8221; or somesuch- even given how much we talk/read/think about the middle east. I rarely hear arabic speakers except in that turned down background way where they let you hear the original orator behind the translator on the radio/news/youtube.</p>
<p>I guess its not that much different that suburban Connecticut youth self policing and correcting each others affected southern (perceived) ghetto parlance- like &#8220;no man, &#8220;shaw-day&#8221;"</p>
<p>authenticity a few times removed starts to get awfully abstract and democratic</p>
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		<title>By: jace</title>
		<link>http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/oily-black/#comment-6333</link>
		<dc:creator>jace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 02:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haiwan - thanks for the comments!  i hope the tone on here is never intimidating. thanks for joining in the conversation...

 i agree w/ you that Busta is being goofy &#038; ridiculous but not intentionally nasty, he's a paid entertainer making a weird grab for pop novelty/timeliness -- there's a reason he's a rapper and not, say, an ambassador...   the fake Arabic seems to speak more about his weirdly small worldview/circle of friends than anything else.  i wonder if it'll make it to the album, or perhaps get replaced w/ actual language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haiwan - thanks for the comments!  i hope the tone on here is never intimidating. thanks for joining in the conversation&#8230;</p>
<p> i agree w/ you that Busta is being goofy &#038; ridiculous but not intentionally nasty, he&#8217;s a paid entertainer making a weird grab for pop novelty/timeliness &#8212; there&#8217;s a reason he&#8217;s a rapper and not, say, an ambassador&#8230;   the fake Arabic seems to speak more about his weirdly small worldview/circle of friends than anything else.  i wonder if it&#8217;ll make it to the album, or perhaps get replaced w/ actual language.</p>
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		<title>By: haiwan</title>
		<link>http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/oily-black/#comment-6332</link>
		<dc:creator>haiwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope I don't sound too stupid, I just saw the chance for my Muhammad the plumber type thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope I don&#8217;t sound too stupid, I just saw the chance for my Muhammad the plumber type thing.</p>
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		<title>By: haiwan</title>
		<link>http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/oily-black/#comment-6331</link>
		<dc:creator>haiwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jace, I love your blog and have never commented, but as an Arab I feel compelled to, and I feel weird about that because you and some other people who comment here are almost intimidatingly knowledgeable and insightful on issues like this, but anyway, I'll say my piece...I first heard this on the radio, I felt momentarily excited that Mister Rhymes was talking about Arabs (considering how accusing a politician of being Arab or Muslim is a libelous smear) until I realized that the chorus was gibberish. I thought, damn Mister Rhymes, I even bought your shitty Extinction Level Event CD back in the day (he actually thanks Allah in the liner notes of that one, not that I purchase music based on all that--I only noticed that after buying it!). But after the song finished, I was less offended by this than I wanted to be, because although it's a clumsy and perhaps ill-informed gesture that sounds like an awful imitation of the adan, I don't sense any intentional nastiness in the song.

He said on a radio show:

"Sometimes people like to twist things. We ain’t mocking the culture, we ain’t trying to be disrespectful ain’t no racism here. If you listen to the song, you see that we are actual ackno the fact that the Arabian culture, middle east culture is one of the few cultures that value passing down hard work riches that’s been built by family…..I would like it would be like that in my culture, where we could build things to the point where we got so much that wewouldnt need to rely on other cultures to contribute majorly to societies/communities/governments where we live in…so we are actually bigging up the culture."

Which is kind of funny, because he might be right (based on my anecdotal evidence) about all the A-rab nepotism--I guess there's Arab money and there's A-rab money, like when I go to Damascus around the the embassies and can't afford any item of clothing at a French designer boutique but later catch a microbus with some Iraqi refugees from the bus station/UNHCR building for 20 cents. But I just thought of all that now. Mostly Mister Rhymes is just boring on this song (where's that "UH uh UH, all over the track, man, UH, pardon me, UH, as I come back"), but even so part of my mind was like, "We getting A-rab money!" and I hated myself a little but I moved on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jace, I love your blog and have never commented, but as an Arab I feel compelled to, and I feel weird about that because you and some other people who comment here are almost intimidatingly knowledgeable and insightful on issues like this, but anyway, I&#8217;ll say my piece&#8230;I first heard this on the radio, I felt momentarily excited that Mister Rhymes was talking about Arabs (considering how accusing a politician of being Arab or Muslim is a libelous smear) until I realized that the chorus was gibberish. I thought, damn Mister Rhymes, I even bought your shitty Extinction Level Event CD back in the day (he actually thanks Allah in the liner notes of that one, not that I purchase music based on all that&#8211;I only noticed that after buying it!). But after the song finished, I was less offended by this than I wanted to be, because although it&#8217;s a clumsy and perhaps ill-informed gesture that sounds like an awful imitation of the adan, I don&#8217;t sense any intentional nastiness in the song.</p>
<p>He said on a radio show:</p>
<p>&#8220;Sometimes people like to twist things. We ain’t mocking the culture, we ain’t trying to be disrespectful ain’t no racism here. If you listen to the song, you see that we are actual ackno the fact that the Arabian culture, middle east culture is one of the few cultures that value passing down hard work riches that’s been built by family…..I would like it would be like that in my culture, where we could build things to the point where we got so much that wewouldnt need to rely on other cultures to contribute majorly to societies/communities/governments where we live in…so we are actually bigging up the culture.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which is kind of funny, because he might be right (based on my anecdotal evidence) about all the A-rab nepotism&#8211;I guess there&#8217;s Arab money and there&#8217;s A-rab money, like when I go to Damascus around the the embassies and can&#8217;t afford any item of clothing at a French designer boutique but later catch a microbus with some Iraqi refugees from the bus station/UNHCR building for 20 cents. But I just thought of all that now. Mostly Mister Rhymes is just boring on this song (where&#8217;s that &#8220;UH uh UH, all over the track, man, UH, pardon me, UH, as I come back&#8221;), but even so part of my mind was like, &#8220;We getting A-rab money!&#8221; and I hated myself a little but I moved on.</p>
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		<title>By: jace</title>
		<link>http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/oily-black/#comment-6283</link>
		<dc:creator>jace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 21:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>buzz - try asking Dub1!  Abbes is a fairly well-known singer, but the mp3 i got didnt have too much extra info on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>buzz - try asking Dub1!  Abbes is a fairly well-known singer, but the mp3 i got didnt have too much extra info on it.</p>
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		<title>By: buzz_aldrin</title>
		<link>http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/oily-black/#comment-6278</link>
		<dc:creator>buzz_aldrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does anyone plz have any more info on that cheb abbes song, i've been playing this on repeat forever, i'm addicted
what album is this from where can i get it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does anyone plz have any more info on that cheb abbes song, i&#8217;ve been playing this on repeat forever, i&#8217;m addicted<br />
what album is this from where can i get it?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/oily-black/#comment-6195</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 05:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>98</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>98</p>
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		<title>By: jace</title>
		<link>http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/oily-black/#comment-6153</link>
		<dc:creator>jace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 03:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thats what i suspected... i was nevertheless hoping for a real word in there, just one or two.  nice post on it, btw!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thats what i suspected&#8230; i was nevertheless hoping for a real word in there, just one or two.  nice post on it, btw!</p>
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		<title>By: THT</title>
		<link>http://www.negrophonic.com/2008/oily-black/#comment-6152</link>
		<dc:creator>THT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 03:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not arabic, but laughable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not arabic, but laughable.</p>
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